Network execs and media buyers are backing radio's new hybrid measurement system to move the needle on investment – and take the fight to Spotify. But embedding the new system, wrapping in wearable listening devices, has not been trouble free, with lumpy numbers understood to be behind the initial delay. HT&E boss Ciaran Davis said there was no backroom haggling on that aspect – just robust challenging. The next phase, wrapping in podcasts, making broader use of the passive listening devices and shifting towards effectiveness over pure reach, will be critical in winning the battle against big tech, and taking a greater share of digital dollars.